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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2012 4:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

“If there's anyone voting for Romney here, please tell me your thoughts on his fake Hurricane Sandy Relief Event,”

To me, it's totally irrelevant, as are the majority of the things both parties are bashing each other for. I care about getting this country back on the right track. I'm not really fond of either candidate, but it's pretty obvious to me that Obama is not the right person. No offense meant by this, but I can imagine it's more difficult to assess the state of this country for you, seeing as you don't live here. I have seen first hand, the increase in lazy attitudes and the growing sense of entitlement among my peers, and I HATE the trend I'm seeing. WAY too many people looking for free handouts. I hate a lot of what I've seen during his presidency and I strongly disapprove of the job Obama has done. Mitt isn't my ideal candidate, but at least he has some experience and brings something different to the table. I disagree with some of his policies, but overall the economy is the most important issue to me and the majority of Americans. With regards to that issue, I believe Romney is more likely to get us back on track quicker. I thought I could stay out of these discussions, but I sometimes just can't help myself. Same story with Koch, and some other trolls lol.

And keep up your blog man. Great stuff.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Nov 5, 2012 6:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

Re: free government handouts

If Romney and Ryan win, all women in the USA who possess a uterus will be treated like terrorists. The same people who say government has no business forcing people to buy health insurance, the same people who think a woman's boss should have the final say in her health care, want to force women-terrorists seeking an abortion to submit to a trans-vaginal ultrasound.

ummm, sounds to me like that's the "docile Government staff forcing" American women go to a "docile Government run facility", and have "docile Government staff raping" pregnant women-terrorist with a trans-vaginal probe until they are satisfied! What do the GD Forum's female deadheads think about this?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 5, 2012 8:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

The 2012 Republican Party platform calls for a constitutional amendment that would outlaw all abortions. No exceptions.

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Nov 5, 2012 9:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

No exceptions? wow, really? Please provide an actual link from the Platform and not just some facebook poster crap-piece you read. I heard the debates and the exceptions concerning abortion on rape & incest.

To women who use murder so as to enjoy their whore ass lifestyle, show some responsibility and shut your f'n legs, (edit)B! Don't take a penny of my taxes to pay for your infanticide, (edit)B!

Killing the unborn is real terrorism!


What do the GD Forum's female deadheads think about this?


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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Nov 5, 2012 9:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

I'll simply base my vote on a politicians view on infanticide...because it shows their true heart and morals.

To you youngins who go on a first date, cut to the chase and find out asap, "whats your view on abortian? your view on pre-marital sex?

(in other words, are you a whore and do you condone murder? pretty important for you guys with a brain above your waist)
A negative answer = immediate exit, stage left. Oh, and the term whore applies to both sexes

And to think some of that rubbish actually votes!

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 5, 2012 9:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

If I'm going to respond to this coherently, you're going to need to tag the sarcastic parts and the sincere parts. Sorry.

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Nov 5, 2012 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

line 1 - how I feel
line 2 - how I feel
line 3 - how I feel
line 4 - have done

line 5 - a tinge of sarcasm because I'm such a hater - lol (sarcasm)

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 5, 2012 9:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

"We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children."

I don't see anything in there about exceptions. Feel free to educate me..

Here's the link: http://www.gop.com/2012-republican-platform_We/

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Nov 5, 2012 10:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

The full text

The Sanctity and Dignity of Human Life

Faithful to the “self-evident” truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues to promote or perform abortion or fund organizations which perform or advocate it and will not fund or subsidize health care which includes abortion coverage. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life. We oppose the non-consensual withholding or withdrawal of care or treatment, including food and water, from people with disabilities, including newborns, as well as the elderly and infirm, just as we oppose active and passive euthanasia and assisted suicide.

Republican leadership has led the effort to prohibit the barbaric practice of partial-birth abortion and permitted States to extend health care coverage to children before birth. We urge Congress to strengthen the Born Alive Infant Protection Act by enacting appropriate civil and criminal penalties on healthcare providers who fail to provide treatment and care to an infant who survives an abortion, including early induction delivery where the death of the infant is intended. We call for legislation to ban sex-selective abortions – gender discrimination in its most lethal form – and to protect from abortion unborn children who are capable of feeling pain; and we applaud U.S. House Republicans for leading the effort to protect the lives of pain-capable unborn children in the District of Columbia. We call for a ban on the use of body parts from aborted fetuses for research. We support and applaud adult stem cell research to develop lifesaving therapies, and we oppose the killing of embryos for their stem cells. We oppose federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

We also salute the many States that have passed laws for informed consent, mandatory waiting periods prior to an abortion, and health-protective clinic regulation. We seek to protect young girls from exploitation through a parental consent requirement; and we affirm our moral obligation to assist, rather than penalize, women challenged by an unplanned pregnancy. We salute those who provide them with counseling and adoption alternatives and empower them to choose life, and we take comfort in the tremendous increase in adoptions that has followed Republican legislative initiatives.

So this is where you defer?
we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed.

I also read the full txt above, it mentions "pain-capable unborn children" I also oppose capital punishment and personally oppose all abortion.

Oh, and my other post was sincere, with a touch of sarcasm in that it's a shame that some with no morals actually vote. To hell with tax supported Planned Parenthood, let George Soros and private contributions pay for it. Oh and NPR also

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 5, 2012 11:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that to apply the 14th amendment to "unborn children" is the same as outlawing abortion in all circumstances. It sound real nice to extend personhood and citizenship to fetuses, but this sets up a situation where pregnant women will at best have to fight legal battles to have abortions that might save their lives.

This is not some abstract thing to me, someone I am close to was in a situation where an abortion might have made a difference in saving her life. She didn't have the abortion, partly because she didn't have accurate information about the cancer, and has a healthy child, but the disease advanced through her system during those intervening months and as a result she may not live much longer.

Banning abortion might make you feel good, but we ignore these stark realities at our own peril.

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Nov 5, 2012 5:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

did she want an abortion, but was refused one? Or did she want a healthy child and choose (by refusing chemo/radiation) to have that child?

That would have been her free choice and if that's what happened, she is a hero in my eyes.

How does she feel about it now? Does she still have prefered an abortion?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 5, 2012 8:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

No, she never wanted one. But she never really had to make the choice because the doctor misdiagnosed her and didn't catch the cancer. They didn't find it until they were already performing an emergency c-section, at which point they also took out the cancer. The entire thing was rather emotional as you might imagine. My point, and one that she has made many times, is that she doesn't know what she would have done if she'd known, but hopes that she would have at least been given that choice.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Nov 5, 2012 9:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

Let's keep it civil, and let's remember that half (or more) the responsibility for any pregnancy rests with males. Keep your zipper up!

And we can step back from abortion - which we all abhor - and note that Romney would defund Planned Parenthood completely, which provides cancer screenings, birth control, education etc.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 5, 2012 8:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

"I have seen first hand, the increase in lazy attitudes and the growing sense of entitlement among my peers, and I HATE the trend I'm seeing. WAY too many people looking for free handouts."

Obama made your friends into lazy slugs. That's priceless. I'm sure it wasn't just bad parenting or alcoholism. Blame the government. Like these guys are out there falling over themselves to get fat and lazy on student loans or free health care. Let them go to the emergency room and learn a lesson or two!

And you see, they're probably not even motivated enough to go out and vote for the goose that lays that golden egg. Oh well.

I can understand how someone can disagree with Obama's policies -- I disagree with many of them. But can anyone tell me exactly what Mitt Romney stands for? Or where he stands on even one single issue? Am I missing something?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Nov 5, 2012 6:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

Re: "Free Handouts from Obama et al?"

"free pepper spray handed out to college kids" in 2011 for protesting tuition hikes at UC Davis
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"free flash-bang grenade slammed into Marine vet Scott Olsen's head" as he protected OWS protesters in 2011
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Mitt Romney's run for President is solely based on his "excellent business experience" that he will use to fix America. Where does the majority of Mitt Romney's business experience come from? Mitt Romney's business experience comes from his run as CEO of Bain Capital.

How did Mitt Romney best profile and market his Bain Capital investment outfit? Mitt and Ann Romney won't even tell Americans what's in their Tax Returns. It's their secret! What is the most telling Bain Capital statement that Mitt Romney made which indicates to all Americans what will happen when he becomes President of the USA?

In 1985 Romney described Bain's formation and showed how he viewed the firm's mission:
watch this YouTube video - 1:21 duration, says it all. Mitt Romney said:
"Bain Capital is an investment partnership which was formed to invest in start-up companies and ongoing companies... then to take an active hand in managing them and hopefully, five to eight years later, to harvest them [BY SELLING ALL THEIR ASSETS] at a significant profit."
I never said I was happy with Obama. He is guilty of giving the free handouts you mentioned to the big banks that failed during Dubya's presidency. Many regular people lost everything they had. Working people got nothing from what I saw. Wait til you see the "free Americana handouts" Romney and Ryan will be handing the millionaires and billionaires on Wall Street. Game Over!

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Nov 5, 2012 6:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

here we go again...if you protest, simple...be aware of police reaction if you refuse to comply and purposely push their hot buttons. Btw, both Davis/UCD and Oakland have very liberal politicians in charge.

So go ahead and bump uglies with the police or just sit there and hope for the pepper spray and the resulting "outrage".

The retard police pepper spray reaction played into it. I would have just ignored the protesting fools. Oh well.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Nov 5, 2012 7:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

That's pure BS sheeple-talk, imvio (in my village idiot opinion). In their beginning years, The Grateful Dead were virtually 100 percent pure counterculture... NOT sheeple. And that's "how they did IT!"

13 Ways to Be a Sheeple (and guarantee you'll never tape anything)
-- written by Eduard Ezeanu

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Rasta, I believe you epitomize the Sheeple profile perfectly! I'll take pepper spray over CNN any fucking day of the week. I rather be a fucking moron, and the village idiot in-chief.

01. Emulate Other People’s Goals in Life
02. Always Follow the Latest Trends
03. Buy Expensive Stuff just because it’s From Famous Brands
04. Hang Out With Mediocre People
05. Get All Your Information from Mainstream Media
06. Don’t Stay Too Well Informed
07. Adopt the Opinions of the Majority
08. Always Obey Authority Figures
09. Avoid Disapproval like the Plague
10. Reject Divergent Ideas by Default
11. Let Inertia Be Your Guide
12. Judge Others Based On Appearances and Stereotypes
13. If Your Life Sucks, Blame the System

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Nov 5, 2012 8:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

01. Emulate Other People’s Goals in Life - nope, my goal is for peace of mind
02. Always Follow the Latest Trends - heavens no
03. Buy Expensive Stuff just because it’s From Famous Brands - I deplore buying PR "famous" crap. I usually buy generic and read all labels
04. Hang Out With Mediocre People - pretty much true (define mediocre...other than republicans - lol)
05. Get All Your Information from Mainstream Media - Nope, except for sports, no TV. Mainstream = lying dogs
06. Don’t Stay Too Well Informed - do too! nanana!
07. Adopt the Opinions of the Majority - the dumbed down majority? hell no!
08. Always Obey Authority Figures - nope. But I will comply cuz drama is drama and I hate pain
09. Avoid Disapproval like the Plague - ha! well I'm here commenting...
10. Reject Divergent Ideas by Default - define divergent...conservative? then that prob applies to you
11. Let Inertia Be Your Guide - only when jogging
12. Judge Others Based On Appearances and Stereotypes - no way Jose. I can discern a phoney in a hearbeat
13. If Your Life Sucks, Blame the System - nope, I take responsibility for any suckass life I have, however I despise govt control on my liberties, so Obama sucks too!

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Poster: Round Robin Date: Nov 5, 2012 4:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

You're right, living there you've got a much better sense of it all. Interesting to hear about the attitudes and entitlement you mention.

I had my files taken down and lost my enthusiasm for the blog. Maybe I'll kick start it again, I'd like to.

Damn it, you've done it now! I'll re-upload some files and see what happens!

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2012 5:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: It's time to decide - move forward or fall back?

"I had my files taken down and lost my enthusiasm for the blog"

Ahah! Just the type of laziness I was referring to :P

That would be great if you started it back up again. Let me know if you do.

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